Looking to buy a D50 (mightymax,b2600,etc.)

Joined: 03 May 2005 Posts: 2417 Location: Lancaster, Oh

well been giving it lots of thought, and just seeing them running around town has given me the truck bug.

so need some help knowing what years to look for and so on. probably looking to do something AFTER x-mas so i am a little early with this post but want to start getting the heads up.

going to keep it simple starting off, i have all my NON-intercooled parts from my flatty so i will use them so i dont have to mess with intercooling piping from the start.

anyone ever keep the carb on one??? i see that TEP has a carb turbo kit for the montero. if i kept the carb on it i wouldnt have to switch any of the wiring in the car would i??

and once we find her, my flatty motor will be the donor, then we are gonna have a non-turbo flatty. Laughing

Joined: 04 Aug 2003 Posts: 4611 Location: Ocala, fl

keep in mind the trucks that will work are the D50's with 2.6, the Mits Mighty Max series ,, and the Mazda B2600 series , carb models
and of course the monterio's and raiders,,but those are low gear'd and very heavy 3600 - 3800 lbs

Joined: 03 May 2005 Posts: 2417 Location: Lancaster, Oh

i have been doing tons of research (so to speak) on them, didnt they have a izuzu rodeo with the 2.6 in it too?

shelby, what does a d50 weigh in at?? lighter then a quest?

have you seen the turbo kit that TEP has for the montero now? they have made a special adapter plate for the carb to feed the turbo, BUT they only have it up as a full kit with turbo and all.

(these images are from TEP)

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The Top-End Performance 88 Montero. Turbocharged with Water Injection
Blowing through a Weber 38 DGES. Approx 180 HP at 6 psi boost.
Bilstein Shocks, Torsion Bars, Sway Bars (Reinforced Front Sway bar mounts.)
ARB Bull Bar, Hella Lights, Confer Roof Rack, 235-75-15 Bridgestone Dueler

now if i decide to keep the carb on it, how much PSI do you think i could push thru it before it becomes horrably inefficent? why am i wanting a carb instead of the injectors? not sure, just trying to think outside the box you know Laughing

not to mention being able to run with no mass air,tps, or isc. i wouldnt mind having an adapter plate made to fit a holly 850 on top of it.

unlike my first posts as a quest owner i would like to keep goals on this one realistic. if i could hit 220hp or so i would be totally happy with that.

ok i will try to make this one the last question for now. Laughing

the tranny and rear end in the d50, does it have lower gears then the quest?

Joined: 04 Aug 2003 Posts: 4611 Location: Ocala, fl

ok that weber will cost you $550 +, adaptor another $50, mega squirt $350 , useing a quest block = no low boost limet , much heavier pistons , crank etc , FIP pro2 ecuand injs less then the carb and no need for the TEP kit ,,
useing the na engine 6 lbs is your life time limet,, NO piston oilers

if i was going to do one of these again i'd deff go with a MS ecu or FIP ecu

oh weight on the pre 87 D50's 2350lbs , adding the turbo and all you'l gain close to a 100 lbs , 87 and up were a little heavier depending on year model
the truck will handle perty much like a car would, the bigest neg is the lack of lsd you'd need to find a 4x4 rear with lsd,, i have seen very few 4x2's with lsd , the trucks are 6 lug and theres room for 265-50 x15's on the rear on 10 " rims

standard gear ratio's on pick ups is the same as the quest 3.54's some have 3.90 as oem

Joined: 09 Jul 2004 Posts: 5085

A couple months back......I walked by while the yard was towing the YELLOW ARROW....D50 ( i guess Laughing

). A few months before that I saw it in the "holding pin." Twisted Evil

It was a complete truck. 2.6 Carb. But they have a bunch of regular "D50s" with differant engines.......P/S........NON P/S etc.

The Dodge pals at Dodge parts dept (2- 30 yr at the same Dodge dealer)
said that truck HAULED ass!! Laughing

Joined: 04 Aug 2003 Posts: 4611 Location: Ocala, fl

as long as it's RWD,, FWD sucks
oh if you decide on a D50 make sure you also get a power steering unit for it,, makes all the diff in the world

another thing i have never seen a D50 with the sport gauge package,,but a lot of the M-Max's had them,, include'd were bucket seats , consol , mechanical gauge package and tach & P/S

Joined: 03 May 2005 Posts: 2417 Location: Lancaster, Oh

i would like to find a non a/c, non p/s, stripped down model.

i was just wondering about the carb to do something different. wish i would have strip the wire harness out of my 87 parts car before i let it go. Rolling Eyes

Joined: 04 Aug 2003 Posts: 4611 Location: Ocala, fl

you ever drive one of these trucks ,,with out PS they steer like a quest with no power steering working , not what i'd call fun to drive ,, you worry'd that looseing 1/2 hp is gona get you beat in a race hehe Rolling Eyes

Joined: 09 Jul 2004 Posts: 5085

I LOVE MANUAL STEERING Twisted Evil

P/S EATS MORE THAN 1/2 HP! I SELL THE COVERSION KIT FOR STARQUEST.

Joined: 03 May 2005 Posts: 2417 Location: Lancaster, Oh

yeah i drove my quest for almost three months without PS. i didnt fix it till the day i loaded it on the trailor to sell it. Laughing

and more then likely the quest will be converted to manual as well.

i am looking to do it for more reasons then the HP gains, hopefully HP isnt going to be a problem. Wink

i want all that crap out of my engine bay, another reason i was leaning to the carb, less wires and clutter.

you mentioned MEGASQUIRT shelby, why would i need a megasquirt to run a carb?

and i AM going to use the motor out of my flatty to put in the truck, and i also still have my 87 motor in peices in the garage. its the one i spun a rod bearing in and like a dummy didnt mark my rod caps when i pulled them. so all it need is the caps matched back up and put back together.

i have wanted that FIP kit for a while now, talked with ed over there a few times about some things. he can also set the ecu up to run extra injectors in the ovcp.

Joined: 04 Aug 2003 Posts: 4611 Location: Ocala, fl

man it'd cost more for the carb set up then it'd cost to go fuel inj, and no where near the same hp
and this old i like no mess in the eng compartment ,, truth is most guys are scare'd to death of wireing fuel inj system
raiseing the hood and seeing an empty engine bay is not cool, it shows a lack of experiance and desire to fix problems when they come by
easier to throw it away then to make it work properly
what pitdly advantage is gain'd from weight loss is nothing to write home about

Joined: 03 May 2005 Posts: 2417 Location: Lancaster, Oh

i wouldnt call it lazy per say Laughing

also with the carb i wouldnt need all the wiring harness, a carb works under its own power correct? it doesnt use tps,isc,02 sensor , mass air or any of that to calculate how much fuel to dump. it measures air thru the jets and dumps full accordingly right?? or am i totally wrong about how they work?

i am not trying to avoid tuning a FI system, i am just like the look of a very simple engine bay. like a old mustang (60's) pop the hood and what do you see, a lot of space and a motor.

none of this is gonna happen overnight, there will be tons of research on everthing and i will make my final decision when the time comes. right now i am just throwing some ideas i have out in the air.

another question:
since mine is a 85, it uses the two 850cc injectors. could i run two green 1050cc ones in place with the STOCK computer? could you tune the tb enough to not have it run pig rich at idle.

Joined: 03 May 2005 Posts: 2417 Location: Lancaster, Oh

shoot, looks like this might be taking a backburner!

browsing autotrader yesterday i ran across a 86 conquest about a hour from me thats is driven daily for $400. making plans to go see it this weekend.

Joined: 03 May 2005 Posts: 2417 Location: Lancaster, Oh

you know if i was swimming in cash or something i would love trying something like this with one.

Joined: 04 Aug 2003 Posts: 4611 Location: Ocala, fl

swiming is right for what that cost it'd pay for the entire magna mpi swap and still have some left over

Joined: 29 Jun 2006 Posts: 107

Shelby wrote:

as long as it's RWD,, FWD sucks
oh if you decide on a D50 make sure you also get a power steering unit for it,, makes all the diff in the world

another thing i have never seen a D50 with the sport gauge package,,but a lot of the M-Max's had them,, include'd were bucket seats , consol , mechanical gauge package and tach & P/S

I'll sell you a complete console from a 79 D-50 Sport with Alt, oil & temp gauges. Make me an offer.

Joined: 13 Jul 2010 Posts: 1

I'm trying to convince my Dad to turbo his 1 ton MM SPX 4x4 Bryan lol. I'm trying to find a Montero at the moment 89 4x4 2.6 in mind. Good luck with finding something and if I were you I would keep the carb as well!!!